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Ludwig Wittgenstein's avatar

Nice stuff, but some Cornell realists (e.g. Brink) reject internalism about motives so the amoralist challenge doesn’t really apply — they already reject the conceptual necessity between morality and motives.

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Ray Alex Williams's avatar

Interesting. But it seems to me that would only further sever any “teeth” in concept of “binding force” and without binding force, it seems like all naturalism can arrive at is hypothetical rather than categorical normativity. If nobody is actually “bound” to follow the objectivity of normativity, is that really normativity in any interesting sense? It seems like we’re just reducing normativity to an abstract description of the subjective preferences of human animals and not engaging in an exploration of why people are bound by “ought” statements. For this reason I think any metaphysically serious naturalist/atheist should embrace error theory.

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Michael Blissenbach's avatar

Ray, here is my favorite lecture by Alasdair MacIntyre that you might enjoy as a starting point to him and his thought:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XjYLM1lw47Q&pp=ygUYY2F0aG9saWMgaW5zdGVhZCBvZiB3aGF0

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Ray Alex Williams's avatar

Thank you 🙏

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Michael Blissenbach's avatar

Catholic Philosopher Charles Taylor’s book A Secular Age is also very good, from what I hear

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Michael Blissenbach's avatar

I highly recommend reading the Catholic philosophers Alasdair MacIntyre (a fellow Catholic convert), Peter Kreeft, G.E.M. Anscombe, and Edith Stein/St. Theresa Benedicta of the Cross

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